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We’re pleased to release a new update for the Flight Sim Labs A321, incorporating a range of improvements, fixes, and optimizations aimed at enhancing both functionality and user experience. This update reflects our ongoing commitment to refining the A321, addressing feedback from our users, and ensuring the aircraft continues to meet the high standards of accuracy and realism expected by our community. addresses various fixes, optimizations, and improvements across the board. Customers can access this update right now via the Flight Sim Labs Control Center, through the experimental channel (instructions here). As is customary with our experimental updates, we will be pushing it to the Public channel after a few days. To read the full version of the announcement and to see key highlights of this update please visit this link: Update V11.0.1.289 - Flight Sim Labs26 points
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The wait is over! Flight Sim Labs is proud to announce the release of our A321ceo for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020! Crafted with precision and passion, this release sets a new standard for authenticity and performance. Featuring four distinct variants - Wing Tip Fence and Sharklets, with both IAE and CFM engine options - this aircraft delivers unparalleled versatility and realism. Whether you're a seasoned pilot or just starting your virtual aviation journey, the A321ceo offers a truly immersive experience. From meticulous pre-flight planning to the satisfaction of a perfect touchdown, every detail has been designed to inspire and challenge flight sim enthusiasts. Learn more and get it now https://www.flightsimlabs.com/index.php/out-now-a321ceo/21 points
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Gents- We respect all our competitors' work tremendously, but please refrain from comparing screenshots from compressed videos with screenshots of published products. By all means, once you have the product in your hands, it'll be awesome to do. At that time, give us all the feedback you want as we'll welcome it with open arms and, if you still feel there's room for improvement, we'll do our best to do so. At this time, however, this is a bit premature, no? Thank you!19 points
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So to create something like an FAQ When will release be? When it's ready - but users will be pleasantly surprised (I believe it was said like that. Lefteris wasn't initially that easy to be understood in BBs stream)- Will the NEO be a standalone product? Yes. Users can still by the NEO only as it releases. Will there be a discount for previous owner of products (FSX/P3D) No. However, the 2024 version will be a free upgrade and customers of the A321 CEO for MSFS will receive a discount for the NEO after its release. What features will it have? Basically everything from P3D and more such as a Techlog, GPS Jamming, MCDU, interactions with FA (e.g. smoke in lavatory and when you call them they will come after a while and talk to you), and EFB/MCDU integration of GSX (so that one does not have to use the GSX popup or the EFB under normal conditions in that regard) and other stuff. Can one use the thermal printer? Yes, it can still be used. Any information about Skalarki Hardware? They anticipate they will have more information regarding that soon. Products are already in the hand of testers. Will Winwing products be supported? Not yet, but they are doing their best to accomodate everybody. What about the Concorde? The Concorde is the family favorite and they didn't forget about it. As it's their favorite child it will come to MSFS if they are satisfied with it. What about the other planes of the 320 family? They will come. Will there be EIS1? As of right now, no. At least not with release. Is there going to be P2F? That is still internally discussed at dev level. What about LR and XLR? LR and XLR are not planned at tthe moment. For long range they focus on wide body. What version is being simulated? S7 with a bit more features. How many failures are included? P3D were 70-75ish failures modeled, now it is 300+. Will there be a wx radar? Not initially. They could have gone for the 2D projection MSFS provides, but as they have a focus on realism they weren't satisfied as they would have liked a 3D projection. Is it going to be released for XBOX or the Marketplace? No. Will it be available for MSFS 2024? Yes, at a later date with a free upgrade for existing customers. What about an official Discord server? That is being discussed. Any other information? Things, such as airframe configs or PAX announcements have the same format as in P3D so one could use the P3D files for MSFS. I can't remember anything else of value that had been asked but you can ask it here and I can expand this FAQ. Additionally, info I wrote here could be wrong as I admittedly didn't always pay attention.15 points
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Respectfully, Stephen, your comments appear to be misinformed. You continue to suggest that we should invest in creating new content for P3D, but such a move would be commercially unviable and unsustainable in today’s market. The individuals involved in Flight Sim Labs have been part of this industry for over 25 years, and our decisions are guided by extensive experience and understanding of its trends. We believe we’re making the best choices for both our business and our customers. Thank you for your input.15 points
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I just want to report an issue with the website that we can not buy the A321, please fix12 points
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Yeah I must admit I'm getting fed up of people who've either never owned the FSL Airbus, or are just jumping on the bandwagon because it's fashionable to do so among certain community circles, declaring how awful the company is. OK it wasn't the best move, but I feel more shafted by the likes of FB and other companies who manipulate their T&Cs in an attempt to trick you in to giving up your data. It's annoying, but I don't go around crying boycott. I do like the Fenix and it's close to having a full suite of features, but that's its problem. Close isn't good enough when you've used the FSL Airbus. I've spent years hoping they bring the A32x to MSFS because I've missed all these little things that went above and beyond which no developer has managed to replicate on their platform. Go and fire up an IAE on the MSFS competition and then do the same with an FSL Airbus in P3D. The difference is like night and day in every aspect. The sounds and startup sequence don't come close. I remember promptly hitting Alt+F4 in disappointment when I was accelerating down the runway when the much awaited IAE update came out on the Fenix. It's good, but FSL spoiled us and I'm really not interested in those who claim the textures aren't up to par with the competition. Give them time and they'll probably improve! I was late to the party with the FSL offering, so I knew about what had happened but at the same time I was in complete awe at what I was seeing and hearing. Humans aren't infallible and we all make mistakes. I'm sure they're aware of their past mistakes, and for those saying they did it once so will *definitely* do it again... Well they're just spouting out nonsense in the hope of a brief dopamine hit from the likes they'll get from like minded doomsayers. I'm certain the business minded side of the company know that the enough of us are willing to forgive and give them a second chance alongside the potential consequences of going down that avenue again. So I'm going to buy their products with confidence and get back to enjoying something that's been missing from the MSFS hangar for far too long. Just my 2p worth.12 points
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Everyone blowing a gasket about some software installed in the plane to check log ins but they give up their internal data to Meta, Google, IG and others with no problems10 points
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Hi FSL Team, I have been a fan of your products for many years. The recent Concorde for P3D is the best simulation I have ever flown - it challenged my current knowledge of flight simming and piloting, elevated the realism factor of my sim beyond levels I had imagined P3D could rise to, and allowed me to explore a past world of aviation I had not previously experienced. To put shortly: Concorde is absolutely superb and the only reason I had continued to fly in P3D since MSFS had proven its capabilities as a sim. I am a huge fan of your products as I have been consistently blown away by the quality. But I worry. While I wish you the absolute best for this new A321CEO product in MSFS (and hopefully many sales), the team's commercial decision making over the past few years, consistent radio silence on development and roadmap, and walking-back of the very little development/roadmap news that had previously chosen to share, has been questionable to me. You comment that (paraphrasing) the decision-making process is guided by extensive experience and understanding of industry trends, for over 25 years - but to be completely honest, I think this may be where the issue lies. The industry has simply shifted away from rewarding this type of development. Simmers are exhausted of the "historic" development type of 5-10 years ago, when waiting this long for a product release or even development news was the norm. The time for treating your customer base in this manner is well and past over, and I think FSL must either shift with it, or be forgotten. With that said, however, I have never developed or been remotely close to flight sim development in my life. Take it with a grain of salt. But I will not lie, I am nervous. I would ask questions about the team's future plans, but I am aware we must await an official announcement, which I am sure and hope will be very soon. At this point, I am trying desperately to be excited for the A321CEO. But being a fan and supporter of the FSL Development Team over the past few years has been both exhausting and frustrating, and I cannot help but think I would have vastly preferred literally any single product or potential product for MSFS from FSL other than an A320CEO variant. We shall certainly have to wait and allow the product to speak for itself, and I sincerely hope it leaves me eating my own words! Cheers, and best of luck with the release - feel free to blow us all away with another spectacular simulation!!!10 points
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No. I'm thinking of exactly what I said. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a32n/a20n https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a32n/a21n I know. It's called "irrational snobism." Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 and 2020 are superior simulations to P3D in pretty literally everything. There has never been a time in which this wasn't the case. But ultimately, this isn't even that important. The important factor is that FSL is a business, and a business' primary goals are to stay in business and generate revenue and from that profit. The ol' dear "put food on the table." Today's P3D is completely incapable of fulfilling these conditions (and struggled even before). That's not FSL's fault, or any third-party developer's fault. It isn't even Microsoft's or MSFS' fault. The only guilty party for this is Lockheed Martin, which was incapable (or unwilling) of creating and maintaining a platform capable of properly supporting healthy business for third-party developers. No one else made their business choices for them, and their business choices are pretty literally the opposite of what third-party companies depending on their platform need to thrive.9 points
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Isn't it funny that you post this yet you still have purchased the Sharklets which released way after that whole thing? Let it go now. If you don't want it then just move on don't need to write essay which adds nothing.8 points
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No need to touch the EFB for GSX to do its thing! You operate the aircraft normally and send certain info to ground operators via datalink... that's all. There was a slight misunderstanding on BB's stream about certain GSX elements so that this didn't come through in all its automated glory8 points
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That’s your opinion which you’re entitled to. It’s not a fact. LM only entered the arena because Microsoft pulled the plug on the Aces team 16 years ago. Without their involvement people would still have been flying FSX until 2020 or have switched to XP. More respect should be shown to LM. P3D will always run and doesn’t require remote servers. The last two weeks have been an unmitigated disaster for MSFS2024. No doubt they’ll get their act together but I’m still very wary of being so reliant on external resources.8 points
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Blackbox711 will be doing a stream tonight (or day) with the fsl devs.8 points
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Maybe not a popular comment, but i'm buying both ceo and neo, to support this amazing group of developers. Fly fenix one day and fslabs the next, what could be better?8 points
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Just bought some new F5 keys for mey keyboard. The old one gets destroyed already by refreshing the Website all the time7 points
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I'm also in cybersecurity. Certied and more. I own FSLabs and have no issue if they know my logins. I'm not worried. I know that's false etc.. and the past but just saying.. people care too much about the past Now big corporations i do worry lol. just trust me on that7 points
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LOL *sarcasm on* for sure buying the FSLabs will deliver all our "sensitive" data to the dark web. *sarcasm off* Everyone is responsible for protecting their own sensitive data and when I look at how many people don't even use proper virus protection, or firewall... and even if its only "passwords"... everyone who still not using a 2 factor authentication on really sensitive accounts... yeah is your own fault... Definitely a point which was not ok in the PAST but it was in the PAST and they did excuse for it and tbh... anyone who is downloading illegal stuff, its their own fault if their machines get infected by any malicious stuff. Again, it was a mistake in the past. Bringing up all the old topics again and again and again.... for what reason? To just creating a negative effect on a gorgeous product from enthusiastic developers?7 points
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Having to this day to read the community's for a large part manufactured outrage, I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night in cold sweat and wonder whether there's something wrong with me if I couldn't care less even as the incident occurred.7 points
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Steve, I encourage you to give FS2020 an honest try. I, too, was resistant for a long time, but paradoxically, the nearing release of 2024 pushed me over, and I have found, that unlike at the time of my previous attempt, I can now use it without any major compromises (I would still like to have Chaseplane, but with Flow... I can get around good enough, and lack of 2D panel system including pop-ups is annoying, but manageable) What I have found is a wonderful platform, full of active communities I have not seen since Aces was disbanded. The platform enables devs to deliver exceptional planes - even freeware ones, again, not seen since the likes of Project Tupolev in FS9/FSX or iFly 747. And I can see that FSL is going to jump straight in and raise the bar even further. That's all not to mention the immersion that the graphical engine, and rich environment of free and paid sceneries allow for. For the first time ever, I can fly VFR and not feel weird about it. But it also extends into airliner flying - landing in LCY, AMS or FRA and recognizing the landmarks I recognize from landing in them as pax just hits different. There's a reason that so many people have switched.7 points
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I am honestly hyped up after the MEL video ... thats so cool....Honestly when one of the devs at FSL told in one of the now closed threads that they are doing something which has never been done before(innovating) ,i kinda expected them to do something like this,which i thought was not possible in flight sim but here we are with FSL setting the standard higher again!! After using the existing p3d titles and seeing the latest youtube uploads ,i am convinced that the bar will be set really really high when FSL comes with their products and considering(they will continue to add features updates like updating the FMS ,newer digital RMP etc etc which Airbus is doing in real life),this product will be THE GOLD standard of the A320 family like the way it was during the P3D era... Really pumped up for the actual official announcement which i hope is not far away!!! @Lefteris Kalamaras @Andrew Wilson @Norman Blackburn7 points
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This is actually not true. The Lufthansa solution is still up to date and many companies are using this - including LH. Its just another tool compared to Airbus FlySmart. I dont see any problem when FsLabs sticks to this layout as it still represents a modern interface.7 points
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Actually, the animation of the trim wheel has been overhauled for MSFS - check again when you have it in hand...6 points
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If you paid for it, you had nothing to worry about. Neither did any legitimate customers. I'm guessing you're not on FB if you are so concerned about the security of your data.6 points
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Thread Reminder: Stay on Topic Hello everyone, As a reminder, this thread is dedicated to discussing our new website and the upcoming products we’re excited to share with you. We’re here to hear your thoughts about these specific topics. Please remember: Discussions about other developers, simulators, or comparisons of their strengths and weaknesses should be made elsewhere. This is not the place for debates about personal opinions or off-topic discussions. Let’s keep the conversation focused and productive. We appreciate your cooperation in maintaining a positive and relevant environment for everyone. Thank you!6 points
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I missed flying the Concorde, so figured I'd reinstall P3D & so I did. I cannot wait to see this bird in MSFS6 points
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We'll really welcome your opinion Andreas! Just FYI - your work is really respected around our office .6 points
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I think people like to overstate P3D being a serious sim and MSFS being a game. Have we forgot that flying in p3d was similar in many ways to a train simulator where you were literally flying on rails? Change is hard. I was one of the people who took over a year to get to msfs despite having access to the alpha when it first released. But I'm glad I did. I can't blame FSL in any way for moving on and stopping new development in p3d if they in fact go that route. While those who stuck behind sure feel passion and affinity to that sim, it doesn't change the fact that the potential customer base for anything new in p3d is VERY SMALL. If I made payware airplanes as a business with a primary goal to feed and provide for my family, I certainly wouldn't spend any time on p3d right now. No offense intended to anybody with that statement.6 points
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Can’t wait for Lefteries post about actual situation, plans and future….6 points
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I literally just provided you with numbers across a statistically relevant pool of users. There's also Navigraph's latest survey. https://navigraph.com/blog/survey-2023 Ultimately, the best "poll" you have is looking at developers like FlightSimLabs, PMDG, etc., abandoning P3D. They abandon P3D because they *know* the sales of their products for P3D and they know that they are abysmal. FlightSimLabs doesn't need a poll to know that P3D is commercially dead. All they have to do is to pull up their own sales numbers. That is exactly what they did and made an informed decision. There really isn't anything else to discuss on the topic. Developers stop supporting P3D because they're a business. No amount of demands for evidence or misguided "we supported you! You owe us!" (no they don't) guilt-tripping will change the fact that a business needs to put food on the table for its workers. They don't drop P3D because they're unfair or evil. They drop P3D because P3D is commercially defunct and can't sustain their business.5 points
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The telling thing here is Lefteris has clearly seen the post and chosen to ignore it by responding to an unrelated post afterwards. People talk about jumping on the bandwagon around it - then jump on the bandwagon proverbially shouting someone down about jumping on the bandwagon! All the poster will do is go back somewhere else and say "the FSL fanboys all rounded on me as expected" - so let's not! Everyone should take a leaf out of Lefteris' book and just ignore them, move on and talk up what is going to be an outstanding product in the sim. Don't waste any more keyboard wear on these people as all they're looking for is to start a fire and let everyone fan the flames with numerous replies. And with that - when's the bloody thing coming out?!5 points
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I dont care where you work and neither working as cybersecurity doesnt make it more credible. I my country that is called difamation specially without any proof, only with the information that other people gave you on internet. If you are so convinced and has the proof , go to the courts and expose everything that you have , but dont come here with your shit and spread it here. Adios5 points
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Aging, yes. Icing? No . But thank you for picking up those small details...5 points
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Many of our testers use our product with Skalarki including one with a single seat and one with a full setup. We anticipate having more information on this soon.5 points
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why do people say its a saturated market? Its Fenix and that's it. We now have FSLabs. There's literally 2. iniBuilds planes made for Microsoft are mid and they dont compete.5 points
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I love the new VERIFIED OWNER of the a321 MSFS on the forum , cant wait to see it on my profile , its the only thing i care , screw the airplane ahahah5 points
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Pretty textures are nice to have. Great system depth and flight characteristics are much more important to me. Best of all would be NEOs.5 points
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Welcome back FSLabs. Happy to check out what you bring to the game.5 points
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I just hope it’s not just the A321 but the entire A320 family, minus the A318. A NEO would be an absolute game-changer! On another note, if FSL can deliver a NEO and perhaps offer discounts for existing customers (P3D and MSFS), they might finally turn things around after missing the mark over the past few years. That said, it’ll be a day-one purchase for me—not just because it’s another addition to the A320 family (which, admittedly, some might argue is already well-covered), but out of respect for the exceptional quality they consistently deliver, considering their existing P3D titles(which is still one of the best despite several iterations from different devs).5 points
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Textures do not seem that great. Hopefully it’s a heavily compressed video.5 points