Scott White Posted October 11, 2025 Posted October 11, 2025 1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Is that a question or a statement? Where in that image does it show it was taken in MSFS. It’s obvious to me it’s from P3D. I think it's that the very last image on that post has this file name Quote
John BONNIN Posted October 11, 2025 Posted October 11, 2025 11 hours ago, Fraser Gale said: Why does there always have to be some news, exactly? People are eager to learn about upcoming products and roadmaps, wanting to know what to expect in the future Aerosoft > A340-600, A330N PMDG > 737 NG & MAX , 747-100 & 400 Fenix > A320 Family Neo Inibuilds > A380 FSLabs > A321N P&W, A320N, Concorde?, A320 Family CEO?, A330? I hope the concorde is next ! (and yes it's from msfs) Quote
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 11, 2025 Posted October 11, 2025 58 minutes ago, Scott White said: I think it's that the very last image on that post has this file name Well spotted that man! 👏 Looking at the shot I’ve seen better from P3D users. Hardly inspirational. But FSL have always been different. So that’s the only clue it’s being developed for MSFS but which version? The release for v4 of P3D was abandoned because v5 had arrived. What will come first? MSFS2028 or Concorde for 24? 3 Quote
Fraser Gale Posted October 11, 2025 Posted October 11, 2025 Can we all calm down a little please… As stated many times in the past, FSLabs are always quiet when it comes to roadmaps and having seen both sides of the process, I can understand why. As soon as you say “soon”, “near future” or indeed give a time frame, people want to hold you to that even if they say they won’t. Things can hit bumps in the road like Microsoft updates that break things etc and it can be impossible to stick with the time you’ve given, leading to disappointment and criticism. It is also possible that in time, plans can change and FSLabs are a business that must need revenue to keep going like every other business on the planet. I have no knowledge of the business or indeed the sales side of any add-on creating company, including FSLabs but it seems to me you would need to adapt your plans based on the market in order to survive. Whether us Concorde fans like it or not, she is an acquired taste that not everyone in flightsim land likes, which echoes the real aircraft both in political and even airline circles. This means we might have to be more patient in order to show how good she is. Airbus wouldn’t exist had Concorde not been built but in my opinion the company might not exist if they hadn’t forced her grounding either, because she did require a lot of resources to keep her going. She’s an aircraft that causes this kind of paradox unfortunately. It is no different in flightsim land. While I understand people wanting information, I’ve witnessed this same sequence before in the lead up to the P3D version, and all that starts is a constant cycle of people wanting more information even when they initially said they’d just be happy with a snippet. History repeats. At the end of the day I have no more info on if/when/what than any of the rest of you, and I’m pleased to see that the aircraft still garners such discussion but FSLabs will tell people things when they are good and ready and not before. Constant asking generally has no effect. I’d far rather see discussion on the types of things people would like to see from an MSFS based version (without comparison with the current one!) but it could really only be those of us who operate MSFS and know its capabilities I suppose that could contribute to that. As someone tries to link responses to me personally these days, I’ll say this: I only have P3D installed because of Concorde. I do all other flying in MSFS because it’s more stable, looks a million times better no matter what altitude I’m at (apart from at night!) and I feel it is more immersive. It makes P3D look like the original Concorde simulator at Filton in the late 1970s with its camera tracking over the huge model to provide the external views in fact! I’m happy to put up with this as long as I can fly Concorde but I really hope one day in the future I’ll be able to permanently delete P3D and fly around the MSFS world at 1000mph! Those who still want to fly her in P3D because that’s what they like and are used to, great! I’m not saying everyone has to switch sims and no starting comparisons please… For now, look at the news and announcements and take what you can from them. I’m sure when/if there’s news, we’ll all hear about it. 10 Quote
Michele Benedetti Posted October 11, 2025 Posted October 11, 2025 I mean, it's pretty obvious they are developing a Microsoft Flight Simulator (2020, 2024 or the next one if it'll come out before, who knows!) version of Concorde, not only from the screenshot on the release announcement from 2023 (which already looks better than any P3D screenshot, sorry!) but also from pre-release livestreams which are still available on youtube and in which we can listen to Andy stating that they are bringing Concorde over to MSFS, so that is out of the question unless FsLabs decides to cancel it (which they have all rights to do since it would be their product)! 27 minutes ago, Fraser Gale said: As someone tries to link responses to me personally these days, I’ll say this: I only have P3D installed because of Concorde. I do all other flying in MSFS because it’s more stable, looks a million times better no matter what altitude I’m at (apart from at night!) and I feel it is more immersive. It makes P3D look like the original Concorde simulator at Filton in the late 1970s with its camera tracking over the huge model to provide the external views in fact! I’m happy to put up with this as long as I can fly Concorde but I really hope one day in the future I’ll be able to permanently delete P3D and fly around the MSFS world at 1000mph! I agree with this statement not 100 but 300%! And I also still have P3D installed only for Concorde, all the rest I moved to MSFS2024 which in Su4 has also solved the night lighting issue, now it looks as spectaluar as during daytime! 27 minutes ago, Fraser Gale said: I’d far rather see discussion on the types of things people would like to see from an MSFS based version (without comparison with the current one!) but it could really only be those of us who operate MSFS and know its capabilities I suppose that could contribute to that. Concerning this, the list is not that long I'd say for sure first thing that comes to mind would be to have a 3D model for the Palmtop rather than a 2D panel, then obviously to have the possibility to totally disable VCS (as it was promised for the P3D version). And lastly (because imo anything else just works perfectly already) a more robust handling of custom route, allowing the user to define accel/decel points (or rather, subsonic/supersonic legs) INDEPENDENTLY ON LAND MASS should they choose to do so, and setting altitude constraints during descent (like the KJFK standard descent planned to reach OWENZ at 14000ft). 3 Quote
Fraser Gale Posted October 11, 2025 Posted October 11, 2025 1 hour ago, Michele Benedetti said: Concerning this, the list is not that long I'd say for sure first thing that comes to mind would be to have a 3D model for the Palmtop rather than a 2D panel, then obviously to have the possibility to totally disable VCS (as it was promised for the P3D version). And lastly (because imo anything else just works perfectly already) a more robust handling of custom route, allowing the user to define accel/decel points (or rather, subsonic/supersonic legs) INDEPENDENTLY ON LAND MASS should they choose to do so, and setting altitude constraints during descent (like the KJFK standard descent planned to reach OWENZ at 14000ft). Well, as I provided photos of my HP200LX for the team to work from (assuming they used them and didn’t find better ones elsewhere), I’m sure I could photograph the sides and back for this purpose . I think the custom route improvement side of things would be something a lot of us would like to see. It was an additional thing towards the end of development - it might have even been after initial release, can’t remember now. It is a very complex part of the simulation, hence the health warnings when it was opened up. Disabling the VCS has been discussed and as someone who knows why it wasn’t introduced (but I’m not at liberty to divulge the reasons) I fully understand the decision. I’m sure it’s something that could be looked at though - I’d just make everyone who wants to turn it off sign a contract that they do so at their own risk so that we don’t get a forum full of “why doesn’t this thing fly” type posts . It wouldn’t be as forgiving as the FSX version, regardless of how accurate folk think that one was. Time will tell…. 5 Quote
Ryan Argue Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 Radio silence for years on the MSFS version of this; we're past the 2020 development cycle, and a year into 2024. Do we have anything to look forward to? Quote
Peter Fabian Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 25 minutes ago, Ryan Argue said: Radio silence for years on the MSFS version of this; we're past the 2020 development cycle, and a year into 2024. Do we have anything to look forward to? You do not have the appropriate badge, so you are not in the forums, but A321neo has been released in June (after A321ceo, for MSFS2020 only, in December), with CFM LEAP only, with promise of P&W in "a few weeks". It's December and it's still not out, the last bugfix update was in August. Make your own conclusions. Quote
Ryan Argue Posted December 18, 2025 Posted December 18, 2025 On 12/15/2025 at 2:40 PM, Peter Fabian said: You do not have the appropriate badge, so you are not in the forums, but A321neo has been released in June (after A321ceo, for MSFS2020 only, in December), with CFM LEAP only, with promise of P&W in "a few weeks". It's December and it's still not out, the last bugfix update was in August. Make your own conclusions. I have, a long time ago. This team moves at a glacial pace. From what I hear, Concorde for P3D doesn’t get updates anymore either. Quote
Ray Proudfoot Posted December 23, 2025 Posted December 23, 2025 As a committed P3D user who’s being enjoying Concorde for two years I did find it disappointing that no mention of Concorde was made in @Lefteris Kalamaras announcement yesterday. For those who love this aircraft why don’t you bite the bullet and reinstall P3Dv5 and buy it? At the altitude Concorde flies how much difference is there in the look and feel between the two sims? And with Steam Lossless Scaling for just a few dollars it boosts fps enormously. Quote
Tim_Marchant Posted December 23, 2025 Posted December 23, 2025 Ray the reason I don't reinstall P3D v5 is I don't own it, I ended at v4 and can't really justify purchasing both P3D and Concorde, @Lefteris Kalamaras a brief update on the status would not go amiss. Thanks Tim 1 Quote
Ray Proudfoot Posted December 23, 2025 Posted December 23, 2025 @Tim_Marchant, fully understand and agree that buying v5 for one aircraft makes no sense. Sod’s Law dictates they’d release the MSFS version soon after your purchase too! 1 Quote
Tim_Marchant Posted December 23, 2025 Posted December 23, 2025 @Ray Proudfoot likewise if I don't purchase it another eternity will pass waiting for the MSFS version! Tim Marchant 2 Quote
Andrew Curry Posted December 23, 2025 Posted December 23, 2025 I really hope I'm wrong, but maybe the reason there is no news is because development is focussed on the Airbus updates, and possibly won't return to Concorde. 1 Quote
David Haufe Posted December 23, 2025 Posted December 23, 2025 So if I watch the flyboyaviation Videos of the P3D Concorde in the Interviews between him and Andrew Wilson the development progress of Concorde for MSFS sound promising. I guess the progress of the MSFS Concorde stumbles on the same challenges as the A321Neo. 1 Quote
Lazo Lluka Posted December 23, 2025 Posted December 23, 2025 A321 PW is the priority right now. The A320 NEO I'm sure is also in the background. They have an A330 too that maybe coming to 2024. We Wont see a Concorde until MSFS2028 at the earliest. 1 Quote
Norio Sasaki Posted December 24, 2025 Posted December 24, 2025 FSLABS have sufficient human resources? If not, they need to prioritize and focus on their products. use google translate 1 Quote
Kelvin Keeble Posted December 31, 2025 Posted December 31, 2025 As a Concorde lover from all sims back to fs2004, I really hoped to see it developed and moved on with the current sims. I have it currently for the P3D5 and it works wonders but always been pondering when it will be moved on MSFS after searching for updates from that on screenshot of the Concorde in MSFS. Seeing the responses from FSLABS doesn't sound promising for the future. 2 Quote
Michele Benedetti Posted January 2 Posted January 2 It's the same nightmare all over again...all add-ons moving to the most recent platform apart from Concorde hopefully FsLabs surprises us in some time Quote
Michele Benedetti Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 12/24/2025 at 12:53 AM, Lazo Lluka said: A321 PW is the priority right now. The A320 NEO I'm sure is also in the background. They have an A330 too that maybe coming to 2024. We Wont see a Concorde until MSFS2028 at the earliest. While I'm sure about the A32X family, I'm not entirely sure that the A330 would come before Conc since we have literally zero pics of that project in MSFS while for Conc we have at least one Quote
Ray Proudfoot Posted January 2 Posted January 2 There’s been no official announcement a MSFS Concorde is being developed. The only “clue” is a screenshot. Surely the time to mention it would have been in the Announcement made shortly before Christmas. Given the complexity of development and the frequent major updates to 2024 it is quite possible every step forward results in one backward. There’s only 2-3 years until MSFS2028 is released assuming that’s the next version. It could be quite possible it’s a waste of time trying to make it compatible with 2024 given the time it takes to build this complex aircraft. Those waiting for the P3D version will recall it was originally planned for v4 but extended development time meant it made more sense to build for v5 which had a pretty stable platform and solid SDK. Is the SDK for MSFS as mature and solid? Just a personal view you understand. Quote
Ryan Argue Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Nobody else has a problem developing complex airliners for 2024. FSLabs missing TWO generations of sims would be ridiculous Quote
Ray Proudfoot Posted January 5 Posted January 5 41 minutes ago, Ryan Argue said: Nobody else has a problem developing complex airliners for 2024. FSLabs missing TWO generations of sims would be ridiculous Nothing else comes close to the complexity of Concorde. It would be very easy for the management to make an announcement simply saying development has started or has been ongoing for x months. For reasons unknown they won’t do it leaving you all in limbo. 4 Quote
Steve Browne Posted January 19 Posted January 19 ........ I have suspected something a miss for months now, to have zero feed back regarding development is extremely unusual, one could take a screen shot of anything , and post, but zero........sad really 1 Quote
Ray Proudfoot Posted January 19 Posted January 19 @Steve Browne, not only are FSL not responding to any requests for progress they’re not acknowledging a bug I’ve found in the P3D Concorde. Not a major one but a bug nevertheless. Absolutely mystifying. 🙄 Maybe they’ve gone into hibernation until the spring. 1 Quote
Peter Fabian Posted January 20 Posted January 20 All the attention is at chasing SU4 betas with the airbus. Oh wait, the SU4 is now stable? Uhhhh.... something else then. Quote
stephen speak Posted January 20 Posted January 20 3 hours ago, Peter Fabian said: All the attention is at chasing SU4 betas with the airbus. Oh wait, the SU4 is now stable? Uhhhh.... something else then. Now I normally defend FSLabs as I have been a customer for a number of years..BUT..in 2023I think it was when p3d v6 came out FSLabs said after a lot of guesswork by customers that they wasn’t going to support that platform..they were well into development of the NEO and A330 for p3d v5..great..I’ll have that when it comes out..roll on 12 months and the announcement that p3d v5 was stopping development and concentrating on msfs..now my question to the developers was and I quote..every time that a patch is put out..you’re going to have to patch or create a new version for FSLabs..just like p3d which was like every 12 months..msfs2020 at the time was being patched every 2 weeks or so..so I said that’s going to keep you busy..and the answer I got..and it was from Andy Wilson..it doesn’t matter with msfs..they can patch all they want as it will not affect our product..if so..how come that every service update..there’s a delay?? 2 Quote
CH_Mirage Posted February 10 Posted February 10 I miss the Concorde. Flying across the pond and working for three hours is simply fun. I hope the FSLABS team is working on that wonderful aircraft. 3 Quote
Michele Benedetti Posted February 11 Posted February 11 On 2/10/2026 at 6:49 AM, CH_Mirage said: I miss the Concorde. Flying across the pond and working for three hours is simply fun. I hope the FSLABS team is working on that wonderful aircraft. One would hope that now that the A21N is fully out of the way the team can fully focus on Concorde😇 unfortunately I pretty much doubt it's going to happen Quote
Trevor Hannant Posted February 11 Posted February 11 I may make a suggestion that something else will come first... 2 Quote
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