New FSL website and A321 CEO for MSFS

[Peter Fabian]

The main website is under maintenance. If that meant that they are about to drop for the season, I would not be mad at all... but I think it's a bit premature.

[Michele Benedetti]

OOooooooooo the website is up!

https://www.flightsimlabs.com/

[Danny Moore]

My question is, will the Neo be a separate purchase or do we have to have the CEO as the base aircraft?

[Alex Pugh]

I guess the real news here is that there's a Neo coming. At $70, there's no way I'm buying the CEO as a Fenix customer though. I'll see what the Neo brings I guess. 

[Pablo Prada]

Good news coming.
Can anybody of the team confirm if P3D line products are dead?

Thanks again for all!

[Alexander Hamilton]

So, that’s a no for the 320 & 19 then?

[Ray Proudfoot]

12 minutes ago, Pablo Prada said:

Can anybody of the team confirm if P3D line products are dead?

Concorde certainly won’t be.

[stephen speak]

Just now, Ray Proudfoot said:

Concorde certainly won’t be.

thanks for that ray..i was going to ask that question myself..p3d isn't dead..there's still plenty of us about..fslabs need to look at the amount of licences sold to work it out

[Pablo Prada]

2 minutes ago, stephen speak said:

thanks for that ray..i was going to ask that question myself..p3d isn't dead..there's still plenty of us about..fslabs need to look at the amount of licences sold to work it out

Yes, specially related with the following announcement:

“We're very excited to be working on the A320 NEO which we expect to make available on the Prepar3D platform initially.”

more than 2 years ago. We will have maybe update? Something for the P3D users?

 

[duartevieira]

26 minutes ago, Alex Pugh said:

I guess the real news here is that there's a Neo coming. At $70, there's no way I'm buying the CEO as a Fenix customer though. I'll see what the Neo brings I guess. 

You are not wrong it will be a pass for sure this ceo 

[Manuel Schlachter]

So will the 321CEO need an upgrade price from MS2020 to MS2024? Because that would be a bit weird. 

[stephen speak]

1 minute ago, Pablo Prada said:

Yes, specially related with the following announcement:

“We're very excited to be working on the A320 NEO which we expect to make available on the Prepar3D platform initially.”

more than 2 years ago. We will have maybe update? Something for the P3D users?

 

i agree with you..i was disappointed with fslabs when they suddenly pulled the development of the p3d NEO..they should have worked on with it..maybe they did..who knows but you'll never get an answer or hint as they are more secretive than the masons..hopefully we will get some sort of announcement regarding it..my fear was correct regarding the development for msfs..too late to the party unfortunately..no matter how mush a fantastic product they produce..people want a certain product..and now..that was a few months ago and people have now got used to it

[Lefteris Kalamaras]

1 minute ago, Manuel Schlachter said:

So will the 321CEO need an upgrade price from MS2020 to MS2024? Because that would be a bit weird. 

No - it's a free upgrade...

[Danny Moore]

The question is not being answered so I'm guessing we will need the CEO in order to get the NEO.

Is the NEO a Standalone or Expansion?

[Miles Harrison]

Thank you FSlabs just made my weekend. CEO and then a NEO. Bring it on.

 

[Jon Beniston]

Looks good!

 

Will there be something equivalent to the Hardware Interface Host for Skalarki support?

[stephen speak]

52 minutes ago, Alex Pugh said:

I guess the real news here is that there's a Neo coming. At $70, there's no way I'm buying the CEO as a Fenix customer though. I'll see what the Neo brings I guess. 

I’ve a sneaking suspicion that you will have to have the base aircraft..the 321ceo in this case to have that..anything on p3d will not work without the A320x..as it’s the base aircraft..I doubt the NEO will be stand alone 

[stephen speak]

15 minutes ago, Danny Moore said:

The question is not being answered so I'm guessing we will need the CEO in order to get the NEO.

Is the NEO a Standalone or Expansion?

It will be an expansion..I have been a customer of FSLabs for years and they don’t work like that..the 321ceo will probably be the base aircraft 

[Danny Moore]

4 minutes ago, stephen speak said:

It will be an expansion..I have been a customer of FSLabs for years and they don’t work like that..the 321ceo will probably be the base aircraft 

Well then it is a hard pass for me as I don't want to purchase the CEO to get a NEO. 

[Pablo Prada]

25 minutes ago, stephen speak said:

i agree with you..i was disappointed with fslabs when they suddenly pulled the development of the p3d NEO..they should have worked on with it..maybe they did..who knows but you'll never get an answer or hint as they are more secretive than the masons..hopefully we will get some sort of announcement regarding it..my fear was correct regarding the development for msfs..too late to the party unfortunately..no matter how mush a fantastic product they produce..people want a certain product..and now..that was a few months ago and people have now got used to it

It's interesting to see how he responds to others. Maybe Lefteries could shed some light on this.
 

I'm not looking for a timeline, I'd just like to know if he let me completely forget about the P3D product line.

In any case I appreciate the hard work of the team. I always knew they were behind the scenes working. I never gave up hope of finding some reward for P3D users too.

Who knows, maybe they'll surprise us with some big update to the current Airbus P3D line.

[B_r_u_n_o-R_o_l_o]

That's exciting news! I am hoping we get a weather radar (I am not sure if there has been any improvements in 2024, we all know the 2020 "radar" is some sort of bitmap), even PMDG gave in and added the default radar to the 73 and 77. 

I completely understand this "radar" is nothing like IRL but please FSL, you guys are going into so much details (love the MEL implementation, will feel like I am at work now lol), it would be a shame not to have this implemented.

Looking forward to the release, whenever it happens!

Bruno.

[Jan Willemsen]

32 minutes ago, Jon Beniston said:

Looks good!

 

Will there be something equivalent to the Hardware Interface Host for Skalarki support?

Thats a important question for me as well...
Hopefully its going to be implemented instantly so the switch from P3D to MSFS2020 in the Homecockpit can be made without another waiting period

[Robert Sutherland]

50 minutes ago, stephen speak said:

It will be an expansion..I have been a customer of FSLabs for years and they don’t work like that..the 321ceo will probably be the base aircraft 

That isn’t what the FSLabs A321 page, and the specific mention of the NEO on it, indicates. 

Why would there be an upgrade price for CEO customers if, as you claim, it’s required as a base package in the first place? 
 

The discount indicates that customers could buy the NEO as a standalone product. 

[JackBeloff]

Maybe not a popular comment, but i'm buying both ceo and neo, to support this amazing group of developers. Fly fenix one day and fslabs the next, what could be better?

[Peter Fabian]

neo makes business sense though honestly, I would be more interested in 320 and 319ceo first... well. There's always P3D. (I plan to fly both in P3D tomorrow in fact, after starting in the FBW neo in MSFS - recreating a trip I took last week)

I wonder what to make of the "coming soon"s. I would like the whole thing to happen before Christmas, but that's a bit of a tall order.

[Lazo Lluka]

At $69.99 for the ceo and a discount for the neo should be a no brainer. The way I see it is if you skip buying coffee for a week you can almost get the ceo.

[Peter Fabian]

Another thing that I think of... Active Sky is now a thing - could that provide the WXR info, like in the old days?

[Danny Moore]

2 hours ago, Robert Sutherland said:

That isn’t what the FSLabs A321 page, and the specific mention of the NEO on it, indicates. 

Why would there be an upgrade price for CEO customers if, as you claim, it’s required as a base package in the first place? 
 

The discount indicates that customers could buy the NEO as a standalone product. 

I wish they would simply come out and say it so it will stop the confusion. Seems like each person has a slightly different interpterion. I guess will find out soon. 

[Jordan Collins]

So you guys are doing the 321 NEO next? What version(s) of the NEO are you doing?

[Peter Fabian]

Also, will ACF door layout be available for 321neo?

[Anirbinna Roy]

So I guess there’s no A320 coming from fsl? Only 321??


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[Keith A Holt]

On 11/11/2024 at 12:25 PM, Jamie Prince said:

Hoping for skalarki compatibility 

I hope that part of any such support also means we can eliminate the 3D virtual cockpit and show just the captain or first officer’s outside view.  This was possible in P3D by editing a configuration file.  For MSFS they should make this option accessible via the UI.

[Ryan Argue]

2 hours ago, Peter Fabian said:

Another thing that I think of... Active Sky is now a thing - could that provide the WXR info, like in the old days?

MSFS has WX radar… the visible, moving rain shaft and the Wx image on the radar.  

[Mirza Beg]

whats the release date for this? it says 2020 mfs coming soon.. why not just release it NOW since it's technically ready

[Matej Stavanja]

CEO is a hard pass for me, but will keep an eye on the NEO if it's a standalone aircraft. I'd say it's a bit too little too late... besides, already fully switched do FS2024.

[Giuseppe Nelva]

42 minutes ago, Matej Stavanja said:

CEO is a hard pass for me, but will keep an eye on the NEO if it's a standalone aircraft. I'd say it's a bit too little too late...

Almost same. But if the Neo is a significant update over the excellent one provided by inibuilds with the sim, it won't be too little too late for me. I'd say just in the nick of time.

I'll also wait for MSFS 2024 compatibility because now that it works fine, there's no way I'm reinstalling 2020. 

I just hope an A320neo will follow. Considering the much larger usage among airlines, that's much higher on my wishlist than the 321neo.

I did have to giggle at some of the hyperbolic marketing verbiage used on the site tho. Being used to press releases, that's on the wilder side and pretty funny. 

[Anirbinna Roy]

@Lefteris Kalamaras @Norman Blackburn @Andrew Wilson I dont wanna get ahead of myself but does this line as mentioned mean that every single circuit breaker is modeled???

[Robin Locher]

1 hour ago, Anirbinna Roy said:

@Lefteris Kalamaras @Norman Blackburn @Andrew Wilson I dont wanna get ahead of myself but does this line as mentioned mean that every single circuit breaker is modeled???

As I read it yes. The word "each" 

[Anirbinna Roy]

As I read it yes. The word "each" 

Demn!!!


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[Chris Ferguson]

Very interested in the MEL features and how the rest of it compares to the competing A321 so I'll be picking this up as soon as it's released 

[Anirbinna Roy]

24 minutes ago, Chris Ferguson said:

Very interested in the MEL features and how the rest of it compares to the competing A321 so I'll be picking this up as soon as it's released 

are they coming up with the 320 as well ?? its also required ..There are many routes which are flown with 320s 

[Chris Kreuzbichler]

36 minutes ago, Anirbinna Roy said:

are they coming up with the 320 as well ?? its also required ..There are many routes which are flown with 320s 

I assume the full P3D lineup will come at a later time for MSFS

[Panupong Thongthai]

As they mentioned "With an all-new Fly-By-Wire (FBW) model, the A321 from Flight Sim Labs captures the authentic feel of Airbus’ most popular narrow-body airliner. This FBW system offers cutting-edge flight dynamics and a refined Flight Guidance System that delivers unrivalled realism in Microsoft Flight Simulator. Every flight feels genuine, as the FBW model faithfully replicates the handling characteristics unique to the A321, allowing for smooth yet responsive control."
I highly hope that's mean they build their own custom flight model and by-pass flight simulator flight model engine as they did since P3D era. As we know that FS2020 flight model engine sometime feels like paper plane 

[stephen speak]

1 hour ago, Anirbinna Roy said:

are they coming up with the 320 as well ?? its also required ..There are many routes which are flown with 320s 

As per usual with FSLabs..making the wrong commercial decision..why on this platform do they start with the A321??..fsx and p3d started with the 320 as the base..not that I’d be getting this any time soon..just curious 

[Anirbinna Roy]

2 hours ago, Chris Kreuzbichler said:

I assume the full P3D lineup will come at a later time for MSFS

No like I am asking for mfs, they should be coming out with the 320 in mfs right ?the 321 isn’t suitable for all routes

@Lefteris Kalamaras @Andrew Wilson @Norman Blackburn please respond


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