Peng Jia Posted November 24 Posted November 24 I don't care about texture quality at all because it hasn't been good for years Quote
Alex Pugh Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 34 minutes ago, Peng Jia said: I don't care about texture quality at all because it hasn't been good for years But it can be very good in MSFS. FNX vs. FSL (with the caveat of YT compression) 1 Quote
Anirbinna Roy Posted November 24 Posted November 24 But it can be very good in MSFS. FNX vs. FSL (with the caveat of YT compression)To be very honest , the upper pic looks considerably better … Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
Lefteris Kalamaras Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Gents- We respect all our competitors' work tremendously, but please refrain from comparing screenshots from compressed videos with screenshots of published products. By all means, once you have the product in your hands, it'll be awesome to do. At that time, give us all the feedback you want as we'll welcome it with open arms and, if you still feel there's room for improvement, we'll do our best to do so. At this time, however, this is a bit premature, no? Thank you! 17 2 1 Quote
Peng Jia Posted November 24 Posted November 24 36 minutes ago, Anirbinna Roy said: To be very honest , the upper pic looks considerably better … Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In p3d,all develop‘s's texture are better than fsl. So I never had any expectations for fsl’s textures, let alone comparing with Fenix Quote
Pablo Prada Posted November 24 Posted November 24 14 minutes ago, Peng Jia said: In p3d,all develop‘s's texture are better than fsl. So I never had any expectations for fsl’s textures, let alone comparing with Fenix Textures are ok. I mean I look for systems realism etc. I can see MSFS users focus on VFR, clouds, trees… Come on, FSL in P3D is the best add on ever created in sim. but yes, the rivers, and the car lights are a bit shit 5 Quote
Pablo Prada Posted November 24 Posted November 24 59 minutes ago, Alex Pugh said: But it can be very good in MSFS. FNX vs. FSL (with the caveat of YT compression) Good to know! Enjoy the Fenix! Quote
Pascal Adelsberger Posted November 24 Posted November 24 4 hours ago, Robin Locher said: Yea. I have to say they used the Lufthansa EFB Takeoff Calculation and Landing Calculation. 10 Years ago LH used this. I think they should develope the Fly Smart Software from Airbus in the EFB. Thats the standard for now, and Airlines dont programm their own Performance Calculation any more This is actually not true. The Lufthansa solution is still up to date and many companies are using this - including LH. Its just another tool compared to Airbus FlySmart. I dont see any problem when FsLabs sticks to this layout as it still represents a modern interface. 7 Quote
Bob Zolto Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Pretty textures are nice to have. Great system depth and flight characteristics are much more important to me. Best of all would be NEOs. 5 Quote
Issac New Posted November 24 Posted November 24 1 hour ago, Pablo Prada said: Textures are ok. I mean I look for systems realism etc. I can see MSFS users focus on VFR, clouds, trees… Come on, FSL in P3D is the best add on ever created in sim. but yes, the rivers, and the car lights are a bit shit The simulation depth is very high, especially in terms of flight aerodynamics, performance, avionics, and especially in terms of truly understanding the systems and operations of a real aircraft, rather than simply flying from A to B. So for me, FSL is definitely my first choice. Even if the texture and model cannot compare to some competitors. 1 Quote
Scott Harmes Posted November 24 Posted November 24 2 hours ago, Alex Pugh said: But it can be very good in MSFS. FNX vs. FSL (with the caveat of YT compression) They kind of look identical, except the top one is missing the standby VOR receiver. 1 Quote
Miguel de gonzalo Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Ill love always FSLABS they came late for p3d also but it was woth the wait, same will happen to msfs.This people is incredible , i have not seen yet a soft cruise so well accurate like the fslabs has, even the fenix is lacking of this system , EFOB calculations are not accurate and as well as some other systems etc, in the other side FSLABS is missing some features like RTA, CONSTANT MACH etc that they will have to implement it since its a must in an aircraft of this caractheristics. Keep up the hard work. 1 Quote
Alex Pugh Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 2 hours ago, Bob Zolto said: Pretty textures are nice to have. Great system depth and flight characteristics are much more important to me. The bar has been raised such that both great visuals and system depth are expected. 2 Quote
Ryan Argue Posted November 24 Posted November 24 37 minutes ago, Alex Pugh said: The bar has been raised such that both great visuals and system depth are expected. Expected and required, to be honest. There's zero reason why it shouldn't look state of the art. Quote
Ryan Argue Posted November 24 Posted November 24 5 hours ago, Lefteris Kalamaras said: Gents- We respect all our competitors' work tremendously, but please refrain from comparing screenshots from compressed videos with screenshots of published products. By all means, once you have the product in your hands, it'll be awesome to do. At that time, give us all the feedback you want as we'll welcome it with open arms and, if you still feel there's room for improvement, we'll do our best to do so. At this time, however, this is a bit premature, no? Thank you! Is it an old model you're showing? 1 Quote
Ryan Argue Posted November 24 Posted November 24 21 minutes ago, Robin Locher said: It’s the model from the YouTube video Yeah, and if that's what they're releasing.... Quote
Bernd Edlinger Posted November 24 Posted November 24 57 minutes ago, Ryan Argue said: Yeah, and if that's what they're releasing.... Whats your point? Are you simulating Ground Services in the Sim or would you like to be a Pilot, flying a Plane with much immersion and system deep you can get? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIMWse7Cec I fully understand, also in view of the long development time, that there could be more detail on those thing but hey, do you know how the final product really look like? Its just what we saw in a video right now. At the end, its just that easy, if you dont like what you see, dont buy it. Feedback is of course always appropriate, but let's wait and see what is actually delivered in the end. 3 Quote
Ryan Argue Posted November 24 Posted November 24 37 minutes ago, Bernd Edlinger said: Whats your point? Are you simulating Ground Services in the Sim or would you like to be a Pilot, flying a Plane with much immersion and system deep you can get? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIMWse7Cec I fully understand, also in view of the long development time, that there could be more detail on those thing but hey, do you know how the final product really look like? Its just what we saw in a video right now. At the end, its just that easy, if you dont like what you see, dont buy it. Feedback is of course always appropriate, but let's wait and see what is actually delivered in the end. I am a pilot. I walk around outside the airplane before every flight. I'd like it to look better than the model they released... a decade ago? Because it can, and should. So I asked, is that an old model they're showing? If that's "yes" than okay great, I'll wait for the next one. If that's "no" than this product does not meet my expectations. 1 2 Quote
Michele Benedetti Posted November 24 Posted November 24 https://youtu.be/laIMWse7Cec?si=mNAPrP5bmXm3mlp3 this is getting serious guys 1 Quote
Pablo Prada Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Can’t wait for Lefteries post about actual situation, plans and future…. 6 Quote
Tony Forrester Posted November 24 Posted November 24 Viewing the last you tube video on GPS jaming etc. It would appear that FSL has introduced a feature that PMDG has talked about for so long. Glodal Flight Operations. 3 Quote
Ahmet Gashi Posted November 24 Posted November 24 the a320-x p3d v4 version will also be usable in MSFS 2024? 1 Quote
Alex Pugh Posted November 24 Author Posted November 24 4 hours ago, Ryan Argue said: Is it an old model you're showing? I hope. Look at how misshapen the IAE still is from the FSX/P3D days. Quote
Giuseppe Nelva Posted November 25 Posted November 25 4 hours ago, Bernd Edlinger said: Are you simulating Ground Services in the Sim or would you like to be a Pilot, flying a Plane with much immersion and system deep you can get? I honestly don't understand the utility of this question. The two things are not in conflict and top developers should be encouraged to aim for both. 1 Quote
Lazo Lluka Posted November 25 Posted November 25 I guess we will get a video a day that shows what the bus is capable of then Hopefully they sneak in the NEO... Wishful thinking. Quote
Robin Locher Posted November 25 Posted November 25 This Future is really incredible!!! That’s a really cool feature !!!!! 1 Quote
Anirbinna Roy Posted November 25 Posted November 25 I am honestly hyped up after the MEL video ... thats so cool....Honestly when one of the devs at FSL told in one of the now closed threads that they are doing something which has never been done before(innovating) ,i kinda expected them to do something like this,which i thought was not possible in flight sim but here we are with FSL setting the standard higher again!! After using the existing p3d titles and seeing the latest youtube uploads ,i am convinced that the bar will be set really really high when FSL comes with their products and considering(they will continue to add features updates like updating the FMS ,newer digital RMP etc etc which Airbus is doing in real life),this product will be THE GOLD standard of the A320 family like the way it was during the P3D era... Really pumped up for the actual official announcement which i hope is not far away!!! @Lefteris Kalamaras @Andrew Wilson @Norman Blackburn 5 2 Quote
Robin Locher Posted November 25 Posted November 25 I am also hyped and this looks so cool. I thought about the MEL last week and thought that it would be nice to have an MEL and simulate some failures like APU or Pack fault. 4 Quote
Anirbinna Roy Posted November 25 Posted November 25 4 hours ago, Robin Locher said: I am also hyped and this looks so cool. I thought about the MEL last week and thought that it would be nice to have an MEL and simulate some failures like APU or Pack fault. Yeah,its FSL we are talking about ...You never know they might have almost the full set of MELs as much as possible in the sim,simulated. On a side note its still kinda crazy to see other devs still having to tune their aircrafts with every update and when i say updates i mean a long list of technical changes and updates which could have been done earlier. Quote
Ross McDonagh Posted November 25 Posted November 25 14 hours ago, Tony Forrester said: Viewing the last you tube video on GPS jaming etc. It would appear that FSL has introduced a feature that PMDG has talked about for so long. Glodal Flight Operations. Literally texted this to an Airbus pilot. FSL had not had my attention until I saw the GFO like feature 2 Quote
Dennis Deus Posted November 25 Posted November 25 Okay, oookkaay... the hype is real. I guess it is a nice wish to hope for a little discount for loyal p3d customers like us? If the now show a working weather radar.... oh my ... 4 Quote
Josh Ward Posted November 25 Posted November 25 3 hours ago, Dennis Schmidt said: I guess it is a nice wish to hope for a little discount for loyal p3d customers like us? This!!! I really really hope that those of us who have invested in the full A320 family in P3D don't have to re-purchase all our aircraft for MSFS2024 at list prices. There's plenty of alternatives available - with lots of customers changing simulators a financial incentive will be needed to stay with FS Labs. 1 Quote
Peter Fabian Posted November 25 Posted November 25 I, for one, am conscious of the the amount of development needed for new sim, and I am fine paying full price for the new product. Instead, I am electing to stay away from the alternatives for the time being (I am conscious of the fact that I am a late adopter of the new generation sim) Quote
Peng Jia Posted November 26 Posted November 26 I'm definitely going to buy the A321,But I've been waiting for your announcement about the Concorde , such as whether the project is still moving forward or has been put on hold, because I don't want to blindly wait. 2 Quote
Michele Benedetti Posted November 26 Posted November 26 7 hours ago, Peng Jia said: I'm definitely going to buy the A321,But I've been waiting for your announcement about the Concorde , such as whether the project is still moving forward or has been put on hold, because I don't want to blindly wait. This. Agree with this 200% Quote
Robert Sutherland Posted November 26 Posted November 26 9 hours ago, Peng Jia said: I'm definitely going to buy the A321,But I've been waiting for your announcement about the Concorde , such as whether the project is still moving forward or has been put on hold, because I don't want to blindly wait. FSLabs have previously said they work on projects concurrently. No news doesn't mean no development. In the same way that they haven't made their A320 series advancements public because they don't want to show their cards, I expect the same with their Concorde. 3 Quote
Alex Pugh Posted November 26 Author Posted November 26 1 hour ago, Robert Sutherland said: FSLabs have previously said they work on projects concurrently. I remember them stating this as well and at this point can only conclude that it is a misleading (edit: or maybe it just needs clarification) statement considering how far behind they are on releasing not just a product for MSFS, but even just an update to the P3D Concorde, which to my knowledge hasn't been updated in more than a year (I don't own it but I hear the grumblings of other customers). 1 Quote
Peng Jia Posted November 26 Posted November 26 3 hours ago, Robert Sutherland said: FSLabs have previously said they work on projects concurrently. No news doesn't mean no development. In the same way that they haven't made their A320 series advancements public because they don't want to show their cards, I expect the same with their Concorde. Concorde does not have a large customer base like the 320. Relatively speaking, this project is more unstable and may be stalled or canceled at any time. However, for Concorde enthusiasts, fsl is their only hope, so they naturally pay more attention to the project progress. 2 Quote
Robert Sutherland Posted November 26 Posted November 26 2 hours ago, Peng Jia said: Concorde does not have a large customer base like the 320. Relatively speaking, this project is more unstable and may be stalled or canceled at any time. However, for Concorde enthusiasts, fsl is their only hope, so they naturally pay more attention to the project progress. The Concorde is ultimately FSLabs's flagship and their passion project. Classic aircraft seem to be hugely popular for MSFS (and likely for MSFS24) so I think you're worrying for very little reason Anyhoo, hopefully we'll get another A321 preview video soon! Quote
Thienhoa Jacobi Posted November 26 Posted November 26 Is fsl a321 will have a modeled cabin? Just curious Quote
Ju_li_en Ke_ml_er Posted November 26 Posted November 26 9 minutes ago, Thienhoa Jacobi said: Is fsl a321 will have a modeled cabin? Just curious The 320 had cabins in P3D. I can't see why it wouldn't be the case in MSFS. Quote
Anirbinna Roy Posted November 27 Posted November 27 12 hours ago, Robert Sutherland said: The Concorde is ultimately FSLabs's flagship and their passion project. Classic aircraft seem to be hugely popular for MSFS (and likely for MSFS24) so I think you're worrying for very little reason Anyhoo, hopefully we'll get another A321 preview video soon! The mfs titles might be coming later in December this year as their way of saying "Merry Christmas".Let's see 1 Quote
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