Dave Taylor Posted October 13 Posted October 13 On 10/8/2024 at 8:35 AM, Philipp Schwaegerl said: Yeah and that's right. Even I left P3D behind for MSFS, but I also think that FSL has the best A32X Series. I've never flown a better Airbus with such amazing details. However for me graphics are an important factor in my simworld and I simply can't go back to P3D. Why did you condemn P3D, when your still awaiting the A320 FS2020?
Kevin Hall Posted October 14 Posted October 14 On 10/13/2024 at 8:42 AM, Michele Benedetti said: Hopefully FsLabs develops Concorde and A330 straight for the 2024 version Hopefully the Concorde will also be compatible with MSFS. I'm not planning to move to MSFS24 until my most used addons are compatible with it, and I don't have the space to install them side by side. There's no reason not to be backwards compatible with MSFS as the fundamentals won't change. Microsoft keep reminding us little or no change is necessary. Build it for MSFS then add the new features for MSFS24.
Kevin Hall Posted October 14 Posted October 14 On 10/11/2024 at 8:05 AM, Ray Proudfoot said: Remember the saying “beauty is only skin deep”. Compare the two SDKs and there are considerable differences. Weather and Camera SDKs being two examples. The camera SDK is not important. The camera system is so flexible there's simply no need for addons for it. As for weather, MSFS24 includes historic weather (for the past 24 hours) and Active Sky have perfected weather injection in MSFS. For me, the built in weather is more then good enough, I haven't bothered with AS. You've ignored one huge advantage of MSFS over P3D, runway slope. Once you experienced it it's hard to go back to the billiard table flat airport scenery in P3D. Surely you've noticed it yourself flying the 777 in MSFS? 1
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 14 Posted October 14 49 minutes ago, Kevin Hall said: The camera SDK is not important. The camera system is so flexible there's simply no need for addons for it. It doesn’t answer the question why they haven’t released the SDK for it though. Does it mirror what ChasePlane does? A separate profile for each aircraft with internal and external views? 51 minutes ago, Kevin Hall said: As for weather, MSFS24 includes historic weather (for the past 24 hours) and Active Sky have perfected weather injection in MSFS. For me, the built in weather is more then good enough, I haven't bothered with AS. 24 hours is very restricted. Some like yourself will be satisfied with 24 hours. Others won’t. 53 minutes ago, Kevin Hall said: You've ignored one huge advantage of MSFS over P3D, runway slope. Once you experienced it it's hard to go back to the billiard table flat airport scenery in P3D. Surely you've noticed it yourself flying the 777 in MSFS? I don’t have MSFS and remain satisfied with P3D. I wouldn’t class uneven runways as a “huge advantage”. It increases realism where it exists in the real world. Let’s use Manchester as a test. Read your altitude at the 23R end and again at the 05L end. What difference is there? And is the hump on that runway 1/3 along from 23R shown? I really don’t want to get into a simulator comparison because they tend to get shut down by the mods. Suffice to say I’m perfectly happy with my choice of simulator with all its addons and the stability I enjoy with v5.3HF2. Finally, your sig shows your sims are FSX-SE and P3Dv4. No mention of MSFS. 1
Matt Crick Posted October 14 Posted October 14 Hello Gents. As a polite reminder, the original topic to FSL was "are you guys still supporting your products". We feel that this question has been answered, but please let's not segue into another P3D -vs- MSFS debate. Thank you 1
Søren Dissing Posted October 14 Posted October 14 5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Does it mirror what ChasePlane does? Yes, and much more. 5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: A separate profile for each aircraft with internal and external views? Yes
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 14 Posted October 14 @Søren Dissing, then it must have been improved substantially during 2020’s life cycle because early on it was causing many users a lot of grief.
David Arthur Posted October 14 Posted October 14 2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: @Søren Dissing, then it must have been improved substantially during 2020’s life cycle because early on it was causing many users a lot of grief. I don’t think these features have changed since the launch. The early grief was more a case of “but this isn’t how P3D/FSX does it!” 5
Søren Dissing Posted October 15 Posted October 15 14 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said: @Søren Dissing, then it must have been improved substantially during 2020’s life cycle because early on it was causing many users a lot of grief. As David said above it was mostly the fact that this was an entirely different approach to camera controls from waht was in FSX/P3D. Took a couple of days of fiddling before it "clicked", but after that - smooth sailing.
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 15 Posted October 15 12 hours ago, David Arthur said: I don’t think these features have changed since the launch. The early grief was more a case of “but this isn’t how P3D/FSX does it!” 34 minutes ago, Søren Dissing said: As David said above it was mostly the fact that this was an entirely different approach to camera controls from waht was in FSX/P3D. Took a couple of days of fiddling before it "clicked", but after that - smooth sailing. It still begs the question why the SDK wasn’t released. Third party developers virtually always improve on the default offering. Aircraft, airports, weather. What have Asobo to lose by publishing the SDK?
Andrew Wilson Posted October 15 Posted October 15 5 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: It still begs the question why the SDK wasn’t released. I presume they don't want people messing around with a perfectly good system. With an XBox controller, it's a joy to use. 5
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 15 Posted October 15 14 minutes ago, Andrew Wilson said: I presume they don't want people messing around with a perfectly good system. With an XBox controller, it's a joy to use. XBox and Concorde? I remember you saying a long time ago Concorde wouldn’t be compatible with an XBox. Confused of Cheadle Hulme.
Norman Blackburn Posted October 15 Posted October 15 40 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: XBox and Concorde? I remember you saying a long time ago Concorde wouldn’t be compatible with an XBox. Confused of Cheadle Hulme. Hopefully this shall aid in removing your confusion. An Xbox controller is compatible with a PC and, as Andy has said, is a joy to use with the camera system. No mention was made of Concorde being on an Xbox. 10
Thiago Braun Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Lesson learned: if you're going to criticize something, it's good practice to get your facts straight; otherwise, you risk losing credibility fast. 2
Ben Mathon Posted October 16 Posted October 16 On 10/14/2024 at 11:16 AM, Ray Proudfoot said: 24 hours is very restricted. Some like yourself will be satisfied with 24 hours. Others won’t. It's what the vast majority on Avsim, MSFS forums and even yourself wanted, play in the evening with daytime weather. A massive plus, is the 24h historical traffic worldwide. A lot of awesome things are coming to FS, some we know, other will be revealed in the next few months, years... Now, we just need the Concorde.
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 16 Posted October 16 41 minutes ago, Ben Mathon said: It's what the vast majority on Avsim, MSFS forums and even yourself wanted, play in the evening with daytime weather. I don’t want it as I’m happy with P3D and as things stand have no desire to buy MSFS. I simply expressed an opinion that one set of global weather was not conducive to daytime flights on the other side of the globe. 1
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 16 Posted October 16 1 hour ago, Thiago Braun said: Lesson learned: if you're going to criticize something, it's good practice to get your facts straight; otherwise, you risk losing credibility fast. Who is this addressed to? Me? I criticised nothing. Read my posts again. I simply expressed surprise the camera SDK hadn’t been published. It’s you who should get their facts right. I really don’t get this criticism of someone because they don’t buy into a new sim. It’s as logical as criticising someone because they don’t share your political views. Each to their own. Carry on waiting for your MSFS Concorde for whichever version it’s compatible with. You own the P3D version so keep flying that.
Ben Mathon Posted October 16 Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I don’t want it as I’m happy with P3D and as things stand have no desire to buy MSFS. It was part of the few critical point that would make you never switch to MSFS, now you can scratch it off your list.
Anirbinna Roy Posted October 16 Posted October 16 Guys ,as @Matt Crick already said let’s keep the discussion focused on the original topic of ‘FSLabs supporting their products’ rather than turning this into the usual P3D vs. MFS debate. Let’s not get this thread locked, so let’s stay on track, gentlemen.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 16 Posted October 16 11 minutes ago, Ben Mathon said: It was part of the few critical point that would make you never switch to MSFS, now you can scratch it off your list. I never realised you paid so much attention to my opinions. One struck off but others remain. I am not a lover of streaming services be they TV (Amazon) or flight sims. I much prefer to have a broadcast signal (TV) or for flight sims, all the data residing on my computer and not be reliant on servers around the world. One glitch, as has happened on several occasions, and flying is out. The biggest one remains forced updates. Never will I buy a sim that forces those on users. God help those of you buying into MSFS24. And with that I’m out. 1
Ben Mathon Posted October 16 Posted October 16 13 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: I am not a lover of streaming services be they TV (Amazon) or flight sims. I much prefer to have a broadcast signal (TV) or for flight sims, all the data residing on my computer and not be reliant on servers around the world. One glitch, as has happened on several occasions, and flying is out. On the client side I have unlimited fiber and 5G. For the server, with a VPN, I can choose the one which is working and in the worst case nothing is working, it won't last longer than 24h, I can live with that, better than spending 200K$ on a NAS system. I understand your reluctance, after tasting 8k, it's hard to switch back to 480i 30 minutes ago, Anirbinna Roy said: let’s keep the discussion focused on the original topic of ‘FSLabs supporting their products’ It was kind of answered by the dev at the beginning of the thread, hope to see a news update soon to clarify everything.
Ray Proudfoot Posted October 16 Posted October 16 39 minutes ago, Ben Mathon said: I understand your reluctance, after tasting 8k, it's hard to switch back to 480i I have a 4K TV and watch football in 4K/HDR. The rest is in 1080i. The only things I watch at lower resolutions are the ITVV Concorde DVDs.
Lefteris Kalamaras Posted October 16 Posted October 16 And with this last reply, I think the thread has run its course. Ray will probably claim that I have something personal against him, again, but I don't - I just don't think that TV resolutions and HDR/4K vs 1080i has anything to do with the thread title. Cheers guys! 15 1 1
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