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Ahhh….would this be an attempt at sarcasm Ray? In deference to Duncan’s charming woofer I’ll resist all irony but will take up your invitation; After much humming and harring over whether to splash out twenty-five knicker on something that might be made obsolete with the release of ‘2024, yesterday evening I took the plunge and bought, installed and started using Active Sky. I must say, I’m pretty pleased I did too. Obviously haven’t had much time to explore all it’s features but installation was straightforward as is the gui. So far I’ve only used it in conjunction with live weather but it’s certainly brought a pleasing variety to both cloud structure and cloud height. Winds aloft seem different too and I’ve only scratched the surface of what this can do so far. A good purchase in my opinion.

Steve, 100% - perfect reason to start the thread. No dramas with that at all. My post was more because we have seen many MSFS threads end up going off the rails recently with MSFS vs P3D debates getting heated. Didn’t want this one to go the same way as there is zero need, and much better venues for those discussions than here. Dunc

Dunc..I started this thread to share some information for those who don’t use p3d and don’t have access to this fantastic add on that’s been a favourite for over 20 years in different iterations..that they can now get better weather..as that’s what makes flight simulation interesting and fun.. Steve

Evening All, I am aware that P3D vs MSFS is a polarising debate. Let's leave the dramatic showdowns to other places. It helps my blood pressure. In the meantime, have a photo of my snoozing Shepherd! Thanks Dunc

I’ve nothing more to say. I’ll leave the floor to you. I’m sure you must have lots to say.

This was a sarcastic comment? It seems more like a statement of the obvious….. You seem determined to turn a thread about Active Sky arriving in MSFS into a thread about your own flight sim choices.

I hope you realise that’s a fudge. You’re not really getting updated scenery 120 times a second.

Not that old chestnut again. Have you seen the pricing? https://www.beyondatc.net/pricing Pay and pay again it seems. Plus I don’t want something you have to speak to. Comms via push buttons is what I prefer. I look forward to an independent review. It would take something exceptional to beat the vectoring in RC4. Sorry, not interested. What I have suits me fine. Yes, I agree it goes some way to satisfying those who want to fly earlier in the day. I only use historical weather in P3D for flights in Asia and Australasia. I set the clock to 01:00 UT for daytime flights in that part of the world. Occasionally I set the day to yesterday for flights in the US. But will they still have cumulus and no other cloud types? Rhetorical question.

Sorry Ray, but 24 hours easily accommodates the main justification for historical weather used by you and most other proponents of historical weather - being able to experience the correct conditions for the time of the day in the timezone(s) you’re flying.

PMDG adapted their P3D plane cockpit in MSFS, have a look at Inibuild or Fenix for exemple

You want to fly the Concorde inside a hurricane that happened X months ago now? Beyond ATC by far and I own RC4 on FSX

While not redone from scratch to make use of the latest tech, PMDG’s VC’s in MSFS still surpasses their counterparts in P3D due to higher-definition textures. I'm confident the same leap will occur with Concorde. Even if FSL makes minimal additional improvements, the enhanced lighting alone will provide a significant upgrade. As of system utilization, MSFS is more efficient as well. Even when rendering the simulation at 120 fps, the GPU workload is effectively halved due to FG.

24 hours compared to two years in ASP3D. 24 hours is hardly historical. Name the ATC program that will be as good as RC4. It took several years to get 64-bit Concorde for P3D. I doubt even my system would produce 100+fps with the complexity of Concorde's FE panel. How it looks is surely down to the skills of the graphical artist. PMDG VCs look superb in P3Dv5. I'm not aware the MSFS version is better visually. I'm one of those unusual people who is happy with 30fps. It doesn't hammer my system like a 100+ fps would.

- 24H historical weather : this year - No better alternative to Radar Contact : this year - No Concorde : soon, hope this year Plus the Concorde cockpit will look way way better with a triple digits frame rate looking at your PC config.

I totally agree ray..you know my thoughts on FSL at the minute..I did ask how they’re going to get on with the constant updates but apparently it’s not a problem..we on P3D on the other hand have to wait for an update after the sim update..the same goes for active sky..

There are several key features that make it unattractive for me. Constant forced updates; no better alternative to Radar Contact; Some AFCADs locked preventing editing; no Concorde; loads of time required to reprogram my GoFlight units; having to repurchase (for a third time) PMDG aircraft. Starting afresh with scores of third party airports. Was there any need for your sarcastic comment? I see you don't list Concorde in your fleet. That aircraft more than most requires accurate weather and temps. Taking off from any time zone many hours different to yours may not show realistic weather. And a sim that has only cumulus is hardly depicting accurate weather. I run multiple addon programs outside and inside P3Dv5. All work extremely well. No CTDs.

If this is a key feature that makes you decide not to buy it, then I guess everyone can live without your purchase. I have the understanding that Jörg and also Asobo knows pretty much what the community (majority) expects and thats also why MSFS2024 is a thing. However I personally dont care about historical weather because not even the live weather isn't real and accordingly. Until this isn't even fixed, why would we have historical weather. And we all dont know about the "limitations" that comes from the partnership with MeteoBlue and such. Not having several API's for 3rd party addons to inject something into the core sim and or overwrites stuff from the sim is something I am very welcome WHEN the basic/core sim stuff works properly. And I think this journey is well known and understood by Asobo to deliver better core stuff (for example weather). I dont want external addons to run next to MSFS. It shows how even GSX makes even MSFS still unstable and sometimes to crash. Only god knows if its even more up to GSX for example or not. I rather want an Flight Simulator that focus on basic aviation related topics and weather is one key feature. Including weather radar possibility and that everyone runs on the/with the same weather. That brings SO MUCH more benefits than having an API available and everyone can inject what he wants. Edit: And tbh.. we actually know nothing really technical about MSFS2024. Until this changes, I wouldn't really argue about MSFS2024.

Only for the last 24 hours. About time they woke up to what many were requesting. Still won’t convince me to buy it.

Let's file this one under: "Posts that didn't age well" https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/644304-historical-weather-planned-for-msfs-2024/

Latest developer livestream says there will be historical weather in MSFS 2024.

AF2 - AF1 (LFPG-KJFK-LFPG) Lovely supersonic round trip over the Atlantic, flight time LFPG-KJFK 3:34, KJFK-LFPG 3:23

Improvements include tornadoes. There’s been no indication historical weather will be made available. In fact, it had to be explained to Jorge what historical weather is. It took a while for the penny to drop. That tells you all you need to know. There will be no historical weather in MSFS2024.

I dont see a need right now. MSFS 2024 is approaching and we'll see in the next coming weeks how Asobo is improving the weather. Its clear that it needs improvements, more features and this is also noted by Asobo itself. So actually no need for 23Euro.

I have tried, but there is no option to setup Select engine crank, normal and ign..

Under the addons pull down menu, Flightsimlabs.