Vincent Twisker Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Hi folks, For my homecockpit I can succesfully undock (from the VC) all PFD, ND and ECAM displays to drag and save them to the appropriate position on my monitors. It would be great if this became possible for the ISIS and DBI screens as well. Would it be possible to facilitate this in the next 320X update? Or is there already a way to do this? Cheers! Vincent 3 Quote Link to comment
Joao Pereira Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Hi Vincent, How many displays totally do you have connected for this set-up? Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted May 3, 2020 Author Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Joao Pereira said: Hi Vincent, How many displays totally do you have connected for this set-up? Hey Joao, 2 USB3 displays cover the left hand and right hand PFD+ND. 1 display via VGA for the EWD+SD. 3 65" TVs cover my external view via HDMI/Display port. The display for EWD+SD is big enough to cover the ISIS and DBI positions. I am using a 1080 graphics card. Vincent Quote Link to comment
Lefteris Kalamaras Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 What is the performance on this PC? Quote Link to comment
Joao Pereira Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 On 5/3/2020 at 6:49 PM, Vincent Twisker said: Hey Joao, 2 USB3 displays cover the left hand and right hand PFD+ND. 1 display via VGA for the EWD+SD. 3 65" TVs cover my external view via HDMI/Display port. The display for EWD+SD is big enough to cover the ISIS and DBI positions. I am using a 1080 graphics card. Vincent Hi Vincent, I'm trying to re-config my set-up for the upcoming FsLabs MIP, I was already thinking about the expensive Matrox modules, but I was missing the possibility of USB3 display connections... Thanks for your reply! Cheers Joao Quote Link to comment
Norman Blackburn Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Hi @Vincent Twisker do you have details for your usb3 displays please? Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Norman Blackburn said: Hi @Vincent Twisker do you have details for your usb3 displays please? https://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/24674-howto-connect-skalarki-fcu-and-mcdu-with-fslabs/&do=findComment&comment=188396 Hi Normal, In this post I have given you the details with a link to the displays as requested. I actually have ordered two more "USB3 display link to HDMI/ VGA adapters" that I want to use for additional 5.6" displays. They will be used for my future homebuilt MCDUs. Quote Link to comment
Lefteris Kalamaras Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vincent Twisker said: Hi Normal, How dare you call him Normal! 2 5 Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted May 6, 2020 Author Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Lefteris Kalamaras said: How dare you call him Normal! Haha, I'm afraid that I've been grounded for too long now. I'm starting to lose my scanning cycle. Btw...What exactly would you like to know regarding my PC performance? Quote Link to comment
Anastasios Kalimeris Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hi, undocked ISIS display would be great indeed. I support this request 1 Quote Link to comment
TH0R5T€N KlRCHH€lM Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 To be true, I like the idea. It would make cross-checking altitudes on PFD and ISIS-Altimeter pretty much easier. Gesendet von meinem SM-A705FN mit Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment
Lefteris Kalamaras Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 On 5/6/2020 at 12:53 PM, Vincent Twisker said: Haha, I'm afraid that I've been grounded for too long now. I'm starting to lose my scanning cycle. Btw...What exactly would you like to know regarding my PC performance? I wanted to see what FPS you're getting with all 6 DUs showing on your 3 monitors... Quote Link to comment
Anastasios Kalimeris Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Geia sou Lefteri, You asked Vincent, but here also my feedback. I am getting 20-30 FPS on 4 DU's in virtual cockpit, more than 30 in 2D view from the cockpit. i9900k rtx 2080 ti Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Lefteris Kalamaras said: I wanted to see what FPS you're getting with all 6 DUs showing on your 3 monitors... I have just done a test taking off from GCRR (MKStudios) with AS4 on actual conditions. On the ground fluctuating 20-25 fps. In flight 25-35 fps. To make this happen I'm using viewgroup (almost 180 degrees) on 3 TVs for external 2D cockpit view...so only outside view. They are 4k TVs running at 1080 each without any significant blurries. 6 undocked displays are showing on my 3 additional monitors, of which 2 are USB3 displays. Considering the fact that this is running on only 1 PC with only 1 graphics card, I am quite happy with the result for my homecockpit. I really hope that undocked ISIS, DBI, clock and DCDUs will become available in the future. At the moment I am waiting for 2 more displaylink USB3 adapters to arrive so I can experiment with 2 additional 5.6" screens intended for my future homebuilt MCDUs. Running P3Dv4, I haven't installed the latest HF3 yet Quote Link to comment
Lefteris Kalamaras Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 So - do either of you need the VC view? Perhaps the 2D view will help you as it performs a lot better? Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Lefteris Kalamaras said: So - do either of you need the VC view? Perhaps the 2D view will help you as it performs a lot better? I don't need the VC, my end goal is a homecockpit that only needs the outside view and all flightdeck displays to undock. 1 Quote Link to comment
Joao Pereira Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, Lefteris Kalamaras said: So - do either of you need the VC view? Perhaps the 2D view will help you as it performs a lot better? Just adding my 2 cents to the conversation...: I have a complete Skalarki Set-up (Overhead + Glarepanels + MIP + Pedestal), I believe the right way of doing things is not to have VC at all... Not only will we gain in which regards performance as you say, but also it doesn't make sense to have 2 MIPS in front of us (one physical and one virtual on the screens). The thing that concerns me will be the right way to connect the MIP displays to the same computer where the outside view already is... Does the USB3 connection needs specific USB3 displays? Because Skalarki's displays are HDMI. Anybody knows if a HDMI-USB3 adapter will work? Joao Quote Link to comment
Mar:kus Czie:gler Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, Vincent Twisker said: I don't need the VC, my end goal is a homecockpit that only needs the outside view and all flightdeck displays to undock. So Vincent as Lefteris stated it would be enough to use the 2D Panels ONLY to gain some extra FPS...i have commented out the VC in the Panel.cfg completely in order to get at least 30FPS in all situations (with rather "normal" settings). Greets, Markus Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mar:kus Czie:gler said: So Vincent as Lefteris stated it would be enough to use the 2D Panels ONLY to gain some extra FPS...i have commented out the VC in the Panel.cfg completely in order to get at least 30FPS in all situations (with rather "normal" settings). Greets, Markus Thanks Markus. I haven't touched the panel.cfg. But to the best of my knowledge I am using only the 2D cockpit to undock all displays. For external view I use "cockpit->cockpit". So I only see the external view but maybe the VC is still degrading the performance. Could you explain what exacty you have changed in the Panel.cfg? I would like to see if it helps. However I would still like to be able to undock the various displays like ISIS from eg the main 2D panel, so I can drag and resize them to the correct position in my homecockpit setup and then close the main 2D panel again. Quote Link to comment
Anastasios Kalimeris Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mar:kus Czie:gler said: So Vincent as Lefteris stated it would be enough to use the 2D Panels ONLY to gain some extra FPS...i have commented out the VC in the Panel.cfg completely in order to get at least 30FPS in all situations (with rather "normal" settings). Greets, Markus Hi Markus, that would also interesting for me. Could you brief us shortly how we can achieve this accordingly. That would be much appreciated. Thank you! Quote Link to comment
Anastasios Kalimeris Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Lefteris Kalamaras said: So - do either of you need the VC view? Perhaps the 2D view will help you as it performs a lot better? I agree with Vincent. 2D panel would be sufficient for homecockpit with undockable panels like Isis, Clock and TBI, Dcdu. Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment
Mar:kus Czie:gler Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Vincent Twisker said: Thanks Markus. I haven't touched the panel.cfg. But to the best of my knowledge I am using only the 2D cockpit to undock all displays. For external view I use "cockpit->cockpit". So I only see the external view but maybe the VC is still degrading the performance. Could you explain what exacty you have changed in the Panel.cfg? I would like to see if it helps. However I would still like to be able to undock the various displays like ISIS from eg the main 2D panel, so I can drag and resize them to the correct position in my homecockpit setup and then close the main 2D panel again. To hide the VC in each model go to the path (like in my case below for the CFM Family) and comment out the VC with // and save... Looks like that: [models] //interior=vc_P3D_x64 normal=plane_P3D_x64 Path: A319 CFM (C:\Users\Markus\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\FSLabs\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSLabs A319 CFM\Model) A320 CFM (C:\Users\Markus\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\FSLabs\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSLabs A320 CFM\Model) A321 CFM C:\Users\Markus\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons\FSLabs\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSLabs A321 CFM\Model But PLEASE make a copy of the original file in advance!!! Greets, Markus 1 Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 Thank you FSLabs! With the latest update (just) MCDU screens, ISIS and DDBI are now available to undock in the 2D cockpit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Lefteris Kalamaras Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Glad to be of service! 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Anastasios Kalimeris Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Wow! Evxaristo Kyrie Lefteri Quote Link to comment
Anastasios Kalimeris Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 How does it work to undock the windows? I am not able to do that in the 2D view. Thank you in advance Quote Link to comment
Joao Pereira Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I believe you have to edit the panel.cfg located here: C:\Users\YOU\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Add-ons\FSLabs\SimObjects\Airplanes\FSLabs A320 CFM\Panel Look for these lines: //Window25=Popup DDRMI //Window32=Popup ISIS Remove the "//" and reload P3D. Joao 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Anastasios Kalimeris Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Thank you very much Joao for your quick answer That should be the solution Kind regards Quote Link to comment
Sam Barry Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 I would love to see a video or some pictures of your sim in action! Quote Link to comment
Vincent Twisker Posted May 1, 2021 Author Share Posted May 1, 2021 It is still a WIP but this picture gives a nice impression of how the undocked ISIS is used in my project. @Lefteris Kalamaras Thanks! 3 Quote Link to comment
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