Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I have created 24 flight plans that match those supplied in the official FSLabs ConcordeX release. These are compatible with Electronic Flight Bag, Active Sky Next and other suitable software. You can download them from the Downloads link above. Hope they help make your Concorde flights more informative and enjoyable. 8 1 Link to post
Morten Steen 5 Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Brulliant Ray, thank you for the contribution! Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 You're welcome Morten. I've just discovered a wrong latitude in 48.AWC. WAL should be N53 23.5 and not N53 53.5. All users are advised to amend their copy. The correct waypoint is in the EGCC-CYYZ plan. Link to post
Jonathan Fong 99 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Erm...are these the same as these flight plan routes: http://www.strontiumdog.plus.com/conc_fpl.zip which have been available since 2008? If so (not accusing you of copying), I think some credit is due. If not, I'd suggest a small disclaimer in the OP stating that you have created these by yourself. Link to post
Kyle Weber 7 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Would be neat to see KIAD-LFPG/LFPG-KIAD added in the mix. And also perhaps putting the actual flight plan route text available somewhere. Link to post
Søren Dissing 223 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Erm...are these the same as these flight plan routes: http://www.strontiumdog.plus.com/conc_fpl.zip which have been available since 2008? I don't think they are the same - Paul Haworth's flightplans are in FS9 (plain text) format whereas those posted by Ray are in FSX format (.xml) Cheers, Søren Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Erm...are these the same as these flight plan routes: http://www.strontiumdog.plus.com/conc_fpl.zip which have been available since 2008? If so (not accusing you of copying), I think some credit is due. If not, I'd suggest a small disclaimer in the OP stating that you have created these by yourself. I haven't used those. I created mine from the FSLabs-supplied PDFs in PFPX. You may have noticed that in that zip EGLLKJFK has UPGAS shown as Fix01 whereas mine gives it the correct name. Also, all my FLs are 600 whereas they're lower in that package. 2 Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Would be neat to see KIAD-LFPG/LFPG-KIAD added in the mix. And also perhaps putting the actual flight plan route text available somewhere. That wasn't in the PDFs unfortunately. Also, the very few AF plans were very simple compared to the BA ones. As these plans are to be loaded directly into relevant software packages extra info such as the route would probably cause it not to load. If you have EFB it does display the route in the format you want. Does copy and paste work? Link to post
Kyle Weber 7 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 No, I don't have EFB. Link to post
Jonathan Fong 99 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Ah, very well then. Carry on Link to post
Ramón Cutanda 148 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I was just thinking about flying those same routes :-) You saved me some very valuable time. Thanks so much. 1 Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I was just thinking about flying those same routes :-) You saved me some very valuable time. Thanks so much. You're very welcome Ramon. One good turn (your videos) deserves another. I've flown EGCC-CYYZ twice now but that long subsonic leg is a bit tedious. Link to post
Ramón Cutanda 148 Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 This is my proposal to fly all FSLabs routes: 01 KJFK Nueva York Kennedy KIAD Washington Dulles 02 KIAD Washington Dulles EGLL Londres Heathrow 03 EGLL Londres Heathrow KJFK Nueva York Kennedy 04 KJFK Nueva York Kennedy LFPG Paris Charles de Gaulle 05 LFPG Paris Charles de Gaulle LFPG Paris Charles de Gaulle 06 LFPG Paris Charles de Gaulle KJFK Nueva York Kennedy 07 KJFK Nueva York Kennedy KJFK Nueva York Kennedy 08 KJFK Nueva York Kennedy EGLL Londres Heathrow 09 EGLL Londres Heathrow OBBI Baréin 10 OBBI Baréin WSSS Singapur Changi 11 WSSS Singapur Changi OBBI Baréin 12 OBBI Baréin EGLL Londres Heathrow 13 EGLL Londres Heathrow HECA Cairo 14 HECA Cairo EGLL Londres Heathrow 15 EGLL Londres Heathrow TBPB Barbados 16 TBPB Barbados EGLL Londres Heathrow 17 EGLL Londres Heathrow KBOS Boston 18 KBOS Boston EGLL Londres Heathrow 19 EGLL Londres Heathrow EGPH Edimburgo 20 EGPH Edimburgo EGLL Londres Heathrow 21 EGLL Londres Heathrow CYYZ Toronto 22 CYYZ Toronto EGLL Londres Heathrow 23 EGLL Londres Heathrow EGCC Manchester 24 EGCC Manchester CYYZ Toronto 25 CYYZ Toronto EGLL Londres Heathrow 26 EGLL Londres Heathrow EGLL Londres Heathrow 27 EGLL Londres Heathrow KIAD Washington Dulles 28 KIAD Washington Dulles KMIA Miami 29 KMIA Miami KIAD Washington Dulles 30 KIAD Washington Dulles KJFK Nueva York Kennedy 31 KJFK Nueva York Kennedy KBFI Boeing Field (Seattle) Scroll down three more post for additional info :-) Link to post
Chris Clarke 1 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 I have created 24 flight plans that match those supplied in the official FSLabs ConcordeX release. These are compatible with Electronic Flight Bag, Active Sky Next and other suitable software. You can download them from the Downloads link above. Hope they help make your Concorde flights more informative and enjoyable. Hi Ray, I only just noticed these were up now. Thanks so much, I'll give some of them a shot... A friend and I are planning to do JFK to Heathrow first. We finally nailed the Heathrow to JFK leg. Nobody has ever been that interested in my Sim, now that I have Concorde X, I've had two visitors to do the JFK flight... Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Cheers Chris, It was your request that prompted me to create all of them. Glad you find them useful. Make sure you alter the WAL coordinates for EGCC-CYYZ. Nice to know Concorde still turns heads. Link to post
Ramón Cutanda 148 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 Based on the real Concorde Flight Plans included by Flightsim Labs with its Concorde X on the one hand and on the Ray Proudfoot’s .pln files from this post on the other, I’ve put all the available flights in order to create a “logic” tour than can be flown in sequence. You can access the tour in the following link: http://simulaciondevuelo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/FSlabsConcordeRoutes.zip On the other hand, I remind you I have designed two other "world tours" specifically designed to be flown with Concorde: http://simulaciondevuelo.com/world-tours-designed-for-concorde/ I hope these will be of your liking. Bests, Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Ray, using the training flight egll-kjfk, also the pre-loaded start on the runway at egll, I have a question on segment 12 AWC, once loaded. Is there an issue with AWC 12? At waypoint 7 (Kelda) it turns towards waypoint 8 (Linnd) which is good, but thereafter it does not pick up waypoint 9 and turns to a more westerly continuation, of course missing out waypoint 1 (Owenz). The aircraft continues towards the coast until a long way south of waypoint 2 (Camrn) then turns north but not towards waypoint 2! I have done this about 8 times now with Concorde-X and it is always the same issue at the same point. On checking INS and all the waypoint coordinates, there is nothing irregular there. They are the same Civa files as the SSTSIM and never had the issue in hundreds of flights therein. I use Plan G on another computer and the red trail of the track does not vary. OK I have raised an issue directly with Lefteris, which may be to do with the way the licence is checked, and followed his specific set of instructions, but the waypoint issue does not go away. So I do not know if it is related other than he indicated that it was not my flying. Thank you. Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hi Martin, The flight plans match the waypoints in the supplied CIVA files so you should not have a problem especially with the EGLL-KJFK tutorial flight which many of us have flown numerous times. After LINND the next waypoint is 72W followed by OWENZ. 72W was not always flown over in real life but it remains in the plan. You will find that because 72W is so close to LINND the INS will not keep it as the active waypoint for very long. In fact as soon as the aircraft turns slightly south of west after passing LINND it will then turn NW to track inbound to OWENZ. Just watch the indicator on the HSI and you should see it change. The aircraft will always stay north of 72W. Providing the AFCS has 350kts set as IAS HOLD it shouldn't be going that fast to miss the waypoints. Other than providing a video so we can see what is happening I'm not sure what else I can suggest. Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yes, I had noticed in SSTSIM it was a left then right for 72W and then on to Linnd. However, this is a blatant left to the West without fail. I have also noted that at 59nm to Kenda with Alt Hold, AT1 down, Chrono on, but F2 does not always kick in to reduce speed. IAS Hold works fine when it does work at 350kts. Descending to FL390 then 14000ft is not an issue and that is coming from about 58000ft. Should the issue be one of speed, then the question would be why does F2 not kick in? Lefteris has not responded as yet to the issue he was looking at. Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I think you mean OWENZ after 72W, not LINND. Try CTRL+F5 but remember you must press the white button a couple of minutes beforehand to arm the system. ALT HOLD must be setBoth AT1 / AT2 off Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Yes Owenz. I was intimating that Alt Hold was set. AT2 is already down and both are only up again at 350kts to maintain speed. If you are referring to the Warning and Landing Display (working from 2D) it must be pressed within the previous 10 minutes. I can say that of the two green lights, the bottom one has never been alight! Link to post
Kyprianos Biris 105 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 If you are referring to the Warning and Landing Display (working from 2D) it must be pressed within the previous 10 minutes. I can say that of the two green lights, the bottom one has never been alight! The second comes to light only if autoland (CAT IIIa in today's standards) conditions are met. Electrics switches set per tutorial, Test button used beforehand, Same ILS frequency on both NAVs, same ILS course on both NAVs, both autothrottles active and Autopilot in LAND mode with both Autopilots working. Only then you get the 2 lights and the proper flare and rollout mode for an autoland. Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Petakas, thank you. Now, where has that Tutorial PDF disappeared to - the one in braille! Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 F2 worked a treat and descent and speed reduced through to 350kts. Still the same issue after Linnd where the INS does not follow on. Sill heads to extreme west and then turns north, but not as per the flight plan, etc. Still I always continue by following TRK HDG to a point to pick up ILS with everything as meant to be, including electrics, I have the two green lights and set to LAND, the call outs are fine. When touching down the autoland does not operate and none of the AT1, AT2, AP1, etc drop out. I just let the aircraft continue just to the River Hudson before it stopped and still none of the switches dropped out. Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Martin, It is very hard to diagnose a problem without some kind of image to show the problem. This is how the aircraft behaves during the descent into JFK. If yours differs then please try to provide some kind of screenshot that shows the path your flight is taking. This was using FS Earth by Luciano Napolitano but it only works with FS9 and FSX:MS. Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Ray, I use Plan G on a separate computer and the flight trail is very clear. I can take a screen print the next time I take a flight. At present I keep starting at TUT_8 just about 150 miles from Kenda. So this should give you a picture of the actual route with waypoints, etc. One thing - how to place the screen shot on here? I tend to save in a word document. I can save as a Jpeg, but where next? Thanks Lefteris has still not responded to the PM of the information he required on Saturday. Trust he doesn't have to build v1.4! Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Martin, There are several free 'cloud' services where you can upload images to. I use Dropbox. Upload your png file to the Public folder and you then have the option of sharing the link. Use the Image icon that is in the second row of icons available when you reply to a post to post the link here. Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 We use Drop Box, so no problem, as long as I can isolate it from other material. As a trial, does this work? Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted February 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 No. Don't post the actual URL in your message. Use Dropbox to copy the link and then press the Image icon and paste the path. Can you also start a new thread please? The Flight Plan topic isn't really appropriate. Link to post
sauviat 4 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Got it, thanks, will do. Link to post
BAW277 0 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Hi Ray, I tried to load your flightplans into CPS and they do not seem to work. Did you try this for yourself? What am I doing maybe wrong? Thanks in advance Holger Kneib Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Hi Ray, I tried to load your flightplans into CPS and they do not seem to work. Did you try this for yourself? What am I doing maybe wrong? Thanks in advance Holger Kneib Hi Holger, I can load them okay. Just tried EGCC-CYYZ without problem. Can you give more info such as an error message or screenshot? 1 Link to post
BAW277 0 Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Hi Ray, I reinstalled the newest version and found, that the mistake was completely on my side, not following the right order to load a flightplan correctly. Thanks for your help and kindness! Holger Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Glad to hear the problem is solved. Link to post
Jip van Kuijk 37 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I can't seem to find the downloads? Link to post
Ray Proudfoot 553 Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 At the top of this page are four links. Forum - Downloads - Staff - Online users. Click Downloads and you'll see the file there. Link to post
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